The tale of Whiteyboards and the Disgruntled International Customers
April 20 – Update down the bottom.
April 17 – After seeing an article on Whiteyboards, I checked out their website to find an interesting product. An instantly usable, reasonably priced whiteboard for your wall.
This is something I can come up with all sorts of uses for that, both at home and in the office. Spurred on by the offer of free shipping, and yet wondering how that works internationally, I placed my order on the 26th of March.
A few weeks later, on April the 17th, myself and about 30 other international customers, all in the CC field (!) received this confusing email :
Hello,
Thanks for your purchase. I have realized that you placed an order outside the United States. WhiteyBoard only offers free shipping within the United States therefore you must pay for your shipping before we release your goods!
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Warm Regards,
Saachi Cywinski
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Founder | WhiteyBoard Startup
Cell (US): +1.818.636.5526
Fax (US): +1.818.508.0667
Skype: WhiteyBoard
Website: www.whiteyboard.com
facebook.com/whiteyboard
twitter.com/whiteyboards
It took about a day for the first confused response to appear in Reply-All.
Hey All,
Heh, this is the weirdest customer support I’ve ever seen. It’s good that you included all foreign customers addresses in one mail.
Maybe we can do a class action thing, I’ve heard they are very popular in your country, just kidding.I don’t like this sentence : “Also WhiteyBoard only offers free shipping within the United States therefore you must pay for your shipping before we release your goods!”
My problem is: you don’t mention it on your site during the purchase process. Homepage -> buy -> checkout. I’ve returned to your site and now I saw a FAQ button, where this limitation is exposed.
And in your mail, you don’t even mention a price for which you will release the goods. Are we supposed to mail you back and say “Hey Saachi, how much would shipping cost?”
I mean, you’re a person with a lot of plastic and a website. You obviously know how how to package them and how to send them out. I’m sure most people here don’t expect free fedex express overnight. We’re used to waiting a few weeks for the ‘normal’ post to get across the ocean, should be like, a few dollars?
So please inform us on our options:
- How much would shipping be to Europe, Asia, … ?
- How can we get the money to you? Pay-pal to which address?
OR
- How can we decline your offer and get our money back.Thanks for any info.
Best regards,
Name Removed
Another Email
Hi all,
Has anyone received a reply from these folks? Mine was directed at me paying up another $30.00 for the shipping to Australia which kind of puts this board at the same price as the one’s here. I wonder if there is another “FAQ” they probably will slip in about a no refund policy
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Regards,
Name Removed
Then yesterday, a very upset email :
Whiteyboard will need to make a loss on this – just suck it in and sort it out. It may mean that 40+ products go out there and you make nothing.
BUT you’ll get the product out into the international market and it’s then up to all of us to work out whether it was worth the wait AND this silly recent email.
Don’t annoy all of us any more than you need to – as we could be repeat customers and advocates for your brand. I was all ready to say how great it was on Twitter (250 followers) and Facebook (150) and to buy some for my office and show off to clients when they come for a meeting.
You lost that good will – which is stupid.
So, I don’t know how anyone else will react, but I’d still like my Whiteyboard if you’ll still ship it.
If not, refund us all and don’t expect future orders…
Next, a response from Saachi to one person :
Hi All,
Our comments taken into consideration I received the following mail from Saachi,
Ill send to you for free. I feel horrible. Business has been so hectic and I’m still a senior in university. I’ve made a few mistakes so far but I’m learning. Cut me some slack mate. Ill send your goods this week.I call the white flag…
Then I sent my email :
Nothing like a little trial by fire to learn good customer service
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Although I haven’t yet received a mail from Saachi.
Jason Winder
I still have heard nothing back from Saachi.
I have full respect for Saachi, starting a business at 22, as a senior in university. I know when I was starting, I made a bunch of similar and often far worse mistakes. I also found out the only way to fix mistakes, is an apology, full transparency on what is going on, and steps you will take to avoid the problem in the future.
Saachi, if you’d like to make a response, please contact me and I’ll update this post with all the details. I hope to hear from you.
April 20 Update
I received this email from Saachi :
Hi all,
This is Saachi from WhiteyBoards. Thanks for bringing this blog post to my attention. I want to address some issues that international customers have been having with their WhiteyBoard orders.
Firstly I want to say thank you very much to everyone who has already ordered a WhiteyBoard. We really appreciate your order, and we’re excited to introduce more people to our new product. After we were mentioned on TechCrunch, we were overwhelmed with orders. I soon realized that we also had a myriad of international orders. We’re set up to deal with US customers only, hence the free shipping offer, but this was not mentioned anywhere on the website.
My second mistake, was not responding to these waiting customers for 3 weeks. It’s no excuse, but given all of the other orders and my university workload, I didn’t get around to responding. I’m very sorry to everyone who was waiting.
Thirdly, I wrote an email that wasn’t clear and didn’t provide people with the options and information they needed to have. Despite the fact that this has been a very important lesson for me, I feel really bad about the whole situation, and as such, I’ve provided all of these international customers with free shipping, and I have started to ship some of these orders. I’ve updated the website to make it clear that we’re currently only serving US customers, but we’re hoping to start serving international customers within the next few months, and we’re looking forward to selling our product worldwide.
Once again, I’m very sorry for any confusion my actions or inactions have caused, and I hope everyone gets plenty of use out of their new WhiteyBoard.
Thanks again,
Saachi Cywinski
